Creating Healing Potions

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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Lambert » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:05 am

I might agree that the Academy in Thorwal teaches a recipe that is also taught in the Acedemy near the Rainforest,
but I doubt that the people who were there before the academy, the "Thorwaler Skalden" use the same recipe, but instead something passed down from them the time before the academy was in Thorwal was founded (a little under 500 years ago).

Likewise the wilds of the rain forest have not been conquered but I bet that the Moha have healing tinktures and potions and that they only use resources available to them in the rainforest.

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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Morgoth Feuerklinge » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:41 am

I don't know if there was already a healing potion before the Academy was built. Maybe they had something similar, but with less effect. In this case, of course, with different ingredients. And yes, I'm with you. In remote areas other ingredients are used for sure. However, you have to dodge for yourself, which quality the potion can reach at most then. I doubt that a healing potion from a tribe in the rainforest can reach exactly the same high quality as a scientifically researched healing potion from Punin. However, the game director should decide on this. I have only posted the recipe listed in the rules set :D
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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Bosper » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:14 am

There are indeed plenty of recipes for every potion. Alchemy works on the basis of allegory and sympathism. If you dont have lizards tail , you can use anything else that stands for rejuvenation and regeneration. An axolotl newt would work the same. Or a rare very fast growing plant. The Wege der Alchemie only lists one example for each potion. But you can be assured that there are dozens of variants for every one.

Thats why TDE 5 gives examples of ingredients, and not recipes. a poison of confusion might use a harpy's feather, or madman's sweat, or an hallucinogetic mushroom. It all can be used to make a working recipe
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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Morgoth Feuerklinge » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:50 am

Exactly. But I would not allow to reduce the ingredients, eg. only whirlweed, to produce a healing potion.
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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Lancaster91 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:28 am

Why is there no "Wirselkraut" or "Einbeere"? Oo
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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Morgoth Feuerklinge » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:13 pm

whirlweed = Wirselkraut
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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby simonb1 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:32 am

Also, according to Google, "Einbeere"is True Lover's Knot.
Which I do not remember seeing in the possible list of ingredients.

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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Morgoth Feuerklinge » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:02 am

I think it is possible to replace whirlweed with Einbeere.
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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Thrar » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:48 am

simonb1 wrote:Also, according to Google, "Einbeere"is True Lover's Knot.


That is a rather bizarre translation. :shock:

The ingredients for a healing potion are on page 272 of the core rules. It says:
page 272 wrote:The bases of most healing potions are curative herbs, like singleberry or wirsel leaf


Further down, the ingredient list is labeled as "typical ingredients".
To me this clearly says that there are many possible healing potion ingredients and the ones given here are an example.

Regarding the translation confusion, Wirselkraut is officially translated as wirsel leaf and Einbeere is single-berry (both of them are in the typical ingredient list). Older translations like whirlweed are from the (in English) barely known 4th edition that was translated by a different team, most notably found in the Drakensang games.
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Re: Creating Healing Potions

Postby Morgoth Feuerklinge » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:06 am

someone should create a wiki article with the new translations. I don't have any English books of TDE and have only a list of TDE4/Drakensang translations.
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