Flash wrote:Yes he could. As long as the GM thinks it is appropriate. As allowing someone to try this with a -3 penalty is his decision. (see box page 186)
As a GM in my games I might for example for example allow this if the person tries to protect something hugely important to him. Lets say a nearly deadly wounded parent trying to save his children from slavers or someone making his last stand to hold the enemies just long enough so that his comrades can escape and so on.
Thrar wrote:Stay Conscious is an application available to everyone by default (p192), as are all applications listed under each skill. The penalty is -4 only.
But where does it specifically say applications are available to everyone by default? It's not on page 192
(a) If a skill check involves a certain application, it appears in parentheses, as in Perception (Spot). This is important when determining whether a hero can use a certain advantage or special ability.
Making a Check When You Don’t Have the Relevant Application
(b) None of the heroes has the special ability Heraldry (which grants the new application Heraldry & Family Trees for the skill Etiquette), but two of the heroes have the advantage Noble I and therefore might have at least some knowledge of local heraldry.
If the GM decides that they can make a check without possessing the appropriate application, their checks suffer a penalty of at least 3. All other normal modifiers apply.
Upon reading the above, it seems to me that (a) if you do have the specific application you can apply certain advantages or special abilities to it, and (b) if you don't have the specific application, but you do have an applicable advantage/special ability (like Noble I above), then you can attempt the action with a -3.
So why would 'Stay Conscious' not have a -3 penalty if you don't have that application?
Again on page 34
"For example, a blind hero may be able to discern an enemy’s position during combat if the enemy makes a lot of noise. This might require checks on Perception (Search) vs. Stealth (Sneak)."
So what happens if you don't have the application Search or Sneak?