Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby Taliesin » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:22 am

TorgHacker wrote:Kickstarters are part pre-sales, part 'what would people like to buy' experiments, and part events. This is the first cosm Kickstarter we're doing for Torg Eternity, so there's going to be a bit of getting a feel for what the market wants and is willing to pay money for.

I get that. I want pretty much everything that's in the Box, except the chips. And I'm saying this because, as Jetstream mentioned it on the KS preview page, I don't need it.

Kamelion wrote:Well, I already have 60 of the regular ones, so I'm already past worrying about excessive... :D

:lol:. I have 40 of these. I know what you mean.

TorgHacker wrote:Another thing to consider is that maybe a Torg GM might not want chips themed to a particular cosm... but if you're a player you might.

You're right. OK... whatever. I can still open up a casino if I can't find any use for those chips :mrgreen:...

ZorValachan wrote:Eventually I bought a Boba Fett Pez dispenser and painted it to match my character's armor. I put an equal number of Pez in it as I had character points, and ate them as I used them.

Hey, I love the idea! Can we get High-Lord-themed Pez dispensers as a stretch goal, please? :D

TorgHacker wrote:I've seen what that product is, and without hyping it too much I really, really, really hope we unlock that stretch goal, because well, this is how I reacted when I found out and again when I saw it:

https://youtu.be/8Pfn3TYa-lI?t=1m4s.

I had forgotten about this one! Brings up a lot of good memories. :)
Wait... which stretch goal?! :shock:

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby Staffan » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:48 am

Here's an idea that might be a little late given the original design: have you given any thought to making the possibility chips blue and red?

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby Kamelion » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:33 am

Staffan wrote:Here's an idea that might be a little late given the original design: have you given any thought to making the possibility chips blue and red?

I bought a bunch of those for my oTorg game - they were hard to find in the UK but worth the effort. I am torn between agreeing with your post because they would look awesome and shrieking in horror because they wouldn't match the Eternity chips we already have.

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby TorgHacker » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:09 am

pkitty wrote:I'm more than a little disappointed that the "Box/every other pledge" split on promo cards is "all/zero" . . . but if the intent is to collect them until it's possible to sell them all as a product, then that just means that the Box folks get these cards first instead of being the only ones to get these cards, which is fair enough.

Looking forward to the launch of this one. Please be sure to let us know what sort of reusable content can be found in the God Box adventure, since (for me at least) that's a huge determiner in whether I feel the need for a physical copy. As a rule, I prefer adventures as PDFs, since they're "one and done," but for stuff like Cosm books that I'll be flipping through a lot, I prefer having both.

Oh, also, are there any plans to make counter sheets available as an add-on? I'd like to pick up another sheet or two, but really don't have the budget to even consider going in on a Box.


Not sure what you mean by 'reusable content'?

As for blips as an add-on if they're like the ones for the core book, probably not since they're not shrink wrapped. I could be wrong though if they've changed that. But once the KS actually goes that should be clear.
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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby TorgHacker » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:10 am

Taliesin wrote:
TorgHacker wrote:I've seen what that product is, and without hyping it too much I really, really, really hope we unlock that stretch goal, because well, this is how I reacted when I found out and again when I saw it:

https://youtu.be/8Pfn3TYa-lI?t=1m4s.

I had forgotten about this one! Brings up a lot of good memories. :)
Wait... which stretch goal?! :shock:


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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby fougerec » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:42 am

Looks like I'm in for the Survival Box! One of my players (who's brand new to Torg via Eternity) "donated to the cause" as it were. Good to know my players are enjoying things so far :)

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby Jim » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:46 am

fougerec wrote:Looks like I'm in for the Survival Box! One of my players (who's brand new to Torg via Eternity) "donated to the cause" as it were. Good to know my players are enjoying things so far :)


Congratulations! That must be gratifying!

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby xshrekx » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:20 pm

TorgHacker wrote:Kickstarters are part pre-sales, part 'what would people like to buy' experiments, and part events. This is the first cosm Kickstarter we're doing for Torg Eternity, so there's going to be a bit of getting a feel for what the market wants and is willing to pay money for. As much as I'd LOVE to think everyone would buy the Survival Box for every cosm, or buy the GM screens for every cosm, or Possibility chips for every cosm, I totally understand if some don't want to. I expect people will pick and choose. So UNA needs to figure out...WOULD people buy a GM screen for every cosm, if it was specialized to that cosm? Would people be interested in buying individual cosms' Possibility chips? And are enough people interested to make it worth doing? It's hard to say. Being wrong and producing something that people might say they want, but then don't actually buy can be costly.


Since you say doing this kickstarter is in part about finding out what people want, I would like to offer my thoughts on the issue. I see myself as a little bit of a collector of Torg. I want to buy the boxes you offer. So I think I will probably be in it for the survival box.
However I was hoping for a slightly lower price tag. Maybe around 150$ or so. In my opinion one GM Screen per Cosm is too much and for me 20 chips per cosm are too much. Without either of theese two items the survival box would be well within my comfort zone and I would not hesitate for a second.
That beeing said, I think I will wait how the contents of the box play out and probably back at that level.

I will most probably buy boxes for every cosm but I do hope there will be a way to have them more in the range of 150$

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby Rocketeer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:53 pm

xshrekx wrote:Since you say doing this kickstarter is in part about finding out what people want, I would like to offer my thoughts on the issue. I see myself as a little bit of a collector of Torg. I want to buy the boxes you offer. So I think I will probably be in it for the survival box.
However I was hoping for a slightly lower price tag. Maybe around 150$ or so. In my opinion one GM Screen per Cosm is too much and for me 20 chips per cosm are too much. Without either of theese two items the survival box would be well within my comfort zone and I would not hesitate for a second.
That beeing said, I think I will wait how the contents of the box play out and probably back at that level.

I will most probably buy boxes for every cosm but I do hope there will be a way to have them more in the range of 150$

I would prefer to have items that are just duplicates of items available in previous Kickstarters left out of the Cosm Boxes and instead possibly be made available as Add Ons. For the Survival Box, this might only include the dice and the counter sheet, but leaving those out might be enough to drop the pledge level of the Survival Box by a few dollars.

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Re: Full Living Land Kickstarter Preview

Postby Taliesin » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:04 pm

xshrekx wrote:In my opinion one GM Screen per Cosm is too much and for me 20 chips per cosm are too much. Without either of these two items the survival box would be well within my comfort zone and I would not hesitate for a second.

I agree. These items are probably the most expendable, and not including them would bring the cost down to a more acceptable level. I get the idea of a you-get-everything pledge level, but this is more redundant than new and useful material.


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