Copycat on Willing Target

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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby Gargoyle » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:51 am

TorgHacker wrote:If you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted to deal with this with a house rule, I'd suggest making copying from a willing target Favored.


I don't, but this is certainly a way better way to do it. :)
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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby TorgHacker » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:06 am

Gargoyle wrote:
TorgHacker wrote:If you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted to deal with this with a house rule, I'd suggest making copying from a willing target Favored.


I don't, but this is certainly a way better way to do it. :)


To be honest, I kinda wish we'd done it this way in the beginning.
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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby Gargoyle » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:10 am

TorgHacker wrote:
Gargoyle wrote:
TorgHacker wrote:If you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted to deal with this with a house rule, I'd suggest making copying from a willing target Favored.


I don't, but this is certainly a way better way to do it. :)


To be honest, I kinda wish we'd done it this way in the beginning.


Maybe there will be a revised edition someday. :)
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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby GeniusCodeMonkey » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:11 am

Going further, having ANY test that you want to fail should be Favoured.

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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby Gargoyle » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:13 am

GeniusCodeMonkey wrote:Going further, having ANY test that you want to fail should be Favoured.


Yeah, I know you mean any test the target wants to fail, andI I kind of took it that she meant it that way too, but now that I think about it, it's not what she said. But I agree with that.
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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby TorgHacker » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:20 am

Gargoyle wrote:
GeniusCodeMonkey wrote:Going further, having ANY test that you want to fail should be Favoured.


Yeah, I know you mean any test the target wants to fail, andI I kind of took it that she meant it that way too, but now that I think about it, it's not what she said. But I agree with that.


That probably is reasonable.
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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby TorgHacker » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:45 am

Had a quick chat with Darrell and he pointed out that would impact things like enhance. Gist is if you're willing to use your action to cooperate with the test, you can use the Combined Action rules (specifically Extra Effort).
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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby utsukushi » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:21 pm

Gargoyle wrote:Maybe there will be a revised edition someday. :)

A revised edition of Torg? I suppose you'll be expecting it to be expanded, too!

Extra Effort kind of does make sense. (This... "agreeing with Darrell" thing is new to me. I may need a minute here.) So like for Copycat, if you know they're doing it and you have Willpower, you might even use your Willpower to justify how you're able to contribute. Or you might just invoke the skill they're copying, as you focus your thoughts on it to, presumably, make them easier to read. And I actually, um -- yeah, this is weird -- like that it then requires your Action, too. That both models that you have to be actually paying attention to it (at least enough to take a -2 Multi-Action penalty if you're still trying to do something else, just like Concentrating on a spell, say) AND limits potential abuse.

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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby RamblingScribe » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:31 pm

"Just relax!"

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Re: Copycat on Willing Target

Postby mystic101 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:21 am

I like the Extra Effort suggestion a lot.


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