Gargoyle wrote:Balance wasn't the problem though, it's more pacing. Torg is designed so that the first couple of rounds feel hard. As you get cards in your pool, it gets easier and you come back and are a badass.
Huh. From my side, that was one of the things I remember admiring about her -- that "front loading" made her good when we were otherwise at our weakest. But I don't remember it being so much that it disrupted that element of the game.
Almost every PP character I've seen has had Wealthy, and almost every Wealthy character I've seen has been PP. Even though CP and Tharkold have higher Tech axioms, they just don't seem as... gadgety, I guess, as Pan-Pacifica encourages.
I do agree with Atama that the Ion Gusoku is easily themed for a Ninja, but the lore isn't there. I find the lack of corporate ninja very disturbing. I feel like really, the whole corporate espionage aspect from old NT was lost under a wave of zombies, and I miss that. I mean, I do get it - there's a reason there aren't a lot of games based on boardroom deliberation and stock market manipulation, and that's because it's insanely boring and complicated. But oTorg made it work and it was, IMO, one of its signature pieces just because of that, so as a legacy item, I really notice its absence. Lots of games have zombies, or magic, or dinosaurs, but an accountant as a viable Storm Knight? That was cool.I honestly feel that the ninja archetype deserves an Ion Gosoku style perk package in PP but I don't think U.S. is going in that direction for them and is focusing on samurai instead.
Kuildeous wrote:He was crap at combat though, relying on never getting caught and talking his way out if he did.
Gunnar also really brought out another of Eternity's strengths - the ability for a wholly non-combative character to still contribute in combat. His Tricks and Taunts did a lot to set us up. (I mean, when he didn't fumble and throw his wallet at the enemy, of course. ) When I was building Colette - who really is meant to be a corporate ninja, along with being my experiment in running a "balanced" character rather than a specialist - I had to work really hard to not copy Gunnar because I liked him a lot, and that made it hard to think past his model.
Given the purpose of this thread and that I suppose Colette does indeed count - she has 8's in all of her Attributes. We already had some XP in that game, but as a starting character she would have had Wealthy and Psionic, with Awareness, Copycat, and Read Mind. I focused her skills a bit - her important ones are Dodge, Melee Weapons, Telepathy, and Trick, all starting at 3, and with 0 XP, I'd have given her those, then Reality 2, and Precognition 2, with the intention to Copycat whatever else she needed. With her balanced Attributes, I figured she'd be a great jack-of-all-trades.
Copycat hasn't worked out well in practice, though. The 3-turn limit makes it almost impossible to use effectively. In combat, having to take a turn to set yourself up to be able to even try, say, Taunting someone, is useless. The main reason she might want to do that would be to take advantage of an Approved Action, and she can't do it fast enough. Out of combat, if someone else has the Skill she'd be copying, they can just use it, plus a lot of out-of-combat situations need it to last longer. (For example, the only person we have with points in Land Vehicles has a Dex of 6. She could Copy his Skill and be two points better... but only for 30 seconds. That's not very useful for driving anywhere.) Especially since it also turns whatever Skill she copied into a Contradiction almost everywhere. I love its concept, but it's been very disappointing.
From there, Ki Strike and Focused Strike were her first two Perk adds. As a "balanced" character, she's not defense-focused enough for Block Strike, and those actually help make up for her Dex and Strength, letting her fight as if she had Dex 10 without having had to sell anything short to get it. I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I do somewhat regret Focused; she already has an Electric Katana, and how many enemies have 6 Armor? But if we ever meet one, I'm sure I'll be excited to see this in action. Assuming Copycat hasn't gotten her Transformed before then.