Yoric wrote:Since I read the Core Rules, I've been curious about Cyberpapacy augments and weapons, and more specifically about their names.
Several things strike me:
Many of these products seem to have company names (I assume that "MAS" is the Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne, the former maker of the Famas?). Does this mean that the Cyberchurch doesn't have direct control over weapon manufacture? With its low Social axiom, a business-friendly Cyberchurch sounds... off, maybe? Just as importantly, all discoveries are due to Ebenescrux, rather than research, so I assume that the Cyberchurch would control weapons and augments more closely.
So this is one of those cases where we chose to continue an element from Original Torg into Torg Eternity. In the original game, the Cyberpapacy literally was a cyberpunk setting put on top of a medievalist Inquisitional theocracy. Cyberpunk was pretty new when Torg came out, so it basically took all those tropes and applied it to the realm.
This included corporations.
Now, in Torg Eternity we changed it up and decided that we'd make it so the Cyberpapacy would have seen the tech surge happen hundreds of years ago so it was a mature cybernetic setting. We chose at the time of the Core Book to keep it at Social 18. In hindsight, after considering the impact of the choice we made, I'd have gone and just slapped it back down to Social 14, and not had corporations at all.
But that's not what we did, so the Core Book has corporation names associated with the cyberware, weapons, vehicles, etc. So when we developed the Cyberpapacy for the sourcebook we needed to explain those. And we have...they're guilds associated with monastic orders rather than corporations, and we go into some detail on these (admittedly most of that detail had to be shunted to the Secrets PDFs).
But yes, one of the tacks we took was that with the Church (nominally) able to control everything, and little social progress being made, what would that look like? Corporations seemed out, but I used the fact that socialism was possible at Social 18 and leaned into _that_ especially since it made a good contrast with Pan-Pacifica which is more of a capitalist dystopia.
But yes, the Church very much has a lot of control over manufacturing.
[*] Many of these products have version numbers. This also strikes me as odd, in the absence of research. Does this mean that technology keeps improving in the Cyberpapacy through regular means even if science doesn't?
Again, legacy stuff.
But technology _does_ still improve through "divine inspiration". It just has some of the terminology associated with incremental science and tech development.
[*] All the names (including company names with the possible exception of MAS) are in English. The only justification I see for this would be that they are branded and manufactured for export? This sounds... possible, I guess
And again, legacy reasons. This is one of those "just so" facts that doesn't really make sense. We do go into it a bit of how these are known by a 'brand' name, but the names are essentially "nicknames" for the monastic order name.
Belle (Order of St. Belladonna): Belle-branded cyberware tends to be specialized in enhancing the visual senses, and is named for a woman who, despite being incredibly beautiful and could have had any man for a husband, chose to become a nun. Her eyes were reputed to be her most admired physical trait.
Compte (Order of St. Lovelace): Named for the first nun named to the Techquisition, this order specializes in the creation of cyberware that provides physical enhancements and prosthetic devices. Many of their prosthetics are better known from the material which they’re made of, HardPlas.