Re: Rules Clarifications (Under Construction)
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:22 am
gribble wrote:Nitoryu Kushirin wrote:gribble wrote:4) I think there needs to be another category for Terminator-only weapons. As written there is nothing stopping a normal marine from using an assault cannon (negating all penalties due to his power armour), which doesn't seem right...
What's wrong with that tho? It's not like a non-termie version of an assault cannon can't be made, even if it would be a heavy weapon - and we've had termies lugging plasma cannons and multimeltas, which are common heavy weapons for non-termies.
From my perspective, I just think it's odd to see a weapon being treated this way that we haven't seen elsewhere in the lore as being man portable outside of Terminators. You'd think that if it were possible, normal devastator marines would have been using them already...
Then again, 40k these days has all sorts of weird combos like this "just because" (e.g. all Primaris weapons), so I suppose it isn't out of the question.
I think the problem is bigger than you describe; because any powered armor completely ignores heavy, and we have no rules covering handedness, there's currently no way to justify terminators carrying heavy weapons one-handed while non-terminators do not (which is consistent across the entire power armor range in WH40K tabletop), and accordingly, some really bizarre conclusions, like how it currently makes no sense for any sister of battle to carry a storm bolter, as she'd have an easier time acquiring an assault cannon and wield it just as easily.
I suspect we need to junk the rule letting any powered armor completely ignore heavy, so it helps you ignore heavy but doesn't just accomplish it on its own, then add a rule that any weapon which is neither pistol nor heavy gains heavy, then add a rule letting you one-hand any weapon whose heavy rating you exceed by 4 or more. That would let terminators with an S7 Marine inside one-hand assault cannons, but in a regular suit, the same Marine would need to be S9 (a much more challenging proposition).